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| Thailand - Krabi |
| 12.24.04 (1:02 am) [edit] |
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I will only write this today. Penelope was attacked by monkeys on the beach today. The funniest thing I've ever seen, can't really describe it. One of them tried to steal her trousers too.
Happy Xmas to everybody again, hope you all have a brilliant time.
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| Last impressions froms SE Asia |
| 12.21.04 (11:31 pm) [edit] |
We are in Thailand now but since we haven't had a chance to write for some time I'll start with the last days in Cambodia. On the way to Thailand we met an amazing lady who's a volunteer in Vietnam. The best thing was that when I started complaining about all the TV programmes and karaoke singing in the bus she said: well, I'm deaf, so whenever they were loud, I switched off the hearing aid! Ingenious! The harassment from the vendors didn't stop in Cambodia, and in order to start the selling interaction the first question you get is where you're from. Pinelopi had the brilliant idea to say that we're from Albania. So we did, but they understood Albany, USA. Then she had another great idea (and then she fainted, two great ideas in such a short time was too much for the poor thing): she suggested we say that we're from Korea! Somehow they got suspicious though and they asked us to speak Korean so that didn't work great either. In Siem Reap we stayed at a guest house that must have been the noisiest place in the universe. First night was in a room where the roof wasn't exactly attached to the walls, there were huge gaps. I was sure that it must be infested with rats and stuff and I was probably right cause when we got back in the evening we saw traces of something. Anyway, the next day we changed rooms. It seems though that there was a music school in the vicinity and the classes started at 5:00 a.m. It only lasted until 8:00 though, just about the time when you get up anyway. The last day was a Saturday and we were hoping that there's no school on weekends. Apparently though on Saturdays they have gong lessons (no kidding). Plus there was some religious thing going on loudspeakers. Off to Thailand then where we met with the group for the Thailand-Malaysia tour. Before that though I managed to leave our credit card in the ATM. And it's not my fault at all cause they have this stupid system where first you get the money, then the receipt and then the credit card. Well, I skipped step 3. Night train to Phun Phin (lots of cockroaches) and then we arrived at a guest house in Khao Sok, in the jungle. Remember how we changed rooms in Cambodia because there were gaps in the walls? This time we stayed in a hut, almost no walls. The thing was open from all sides, just a fragile mosquito net separating you from rats, spiders and monkeys. Pinelopi of course thought it was cool. No major incidents though except from an unknown creature that had dinner and took a major dump on our porch on both nights. And jungle noises. Plus we were at the end of electricity and the lights were as dim as they can get. Naturally, and just because it's me, I went barefoot in the room and I stepped on a frog. It took about two hours to get the damn thing out of the room. Of course if my suggestion to kill the bastard was taken on board it would have been much quicker. We also visited the national park there where there's supposedly the biggest flower in the world (80 cm diameter) that blooms only once a year and for only four days, but we didn't see it. That's OK though, we'll probably create some fakes, you know, paper flowers, a bit exagerated to cover the horizon etc. Now we're in Ao Nang, Thailand, a beach resort and everything looks OK. Tomorrow will go snorkelling close to the islands where they filmed "The beach" (we're not going to the actual spot cause I hate Leonardo Di Crapio and the movie).
Happy Xmas everybody.
Vassilis
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| Just some comments |
| 12.16.04 (7:00 pm) [edit] |
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Just to answer some questions we got:
No, we haven't tried domestic animals. There were dog meat restaurants in Vietnam but we didn't go. I was also offered by street vendors lovely crunchy crickets and juicy black spiders (you know, the ones that explode in a creamy surprise in your mouth). You can guess whether I tried or not (although I know some Spanish people who would). Vietnamese fanny tastes great though, I really enjoyed it (Fanny is an ice cream brand, perverts).
No, we don't wear local clothes either. Penelope bought something (actually a lot of things) here, but so far I haven't seen any locals wearing them and all foreign women have bought the same. Does it qualify as "local clothes"? &nbs p;
My cousin was writing that at our age we only go to places with a plug for the blow dryer. In this area you're lucky if there's a wall in the first place.
Yesterday we met some Cambodian 6 year old girls who sold us some small stuff. Those poor girls were so clever that it seems such a waste of potential that they can't have a proper education. At their age I doubt that I was even able to speak yet, let alone hold an intelligent conversation. And their English was a gazillion times better than some managers' in MS who have spent 15 years in the States. And don't even get me started with the IQ, it doesn't even begin to compare, it's so unfair. At the end they even gave us a couple of the braceletes they were selling for free. I was more impressed by these girls than by the temples.
Vassilis
PS: More photos added http://photos.yahoo.com/koule...
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| Random facts |
| 12.14.04 (3:06 am) [edit] |
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- There is MTV Asia in case you were wondering. They play the same stupid R&B music, with the same video clips: guy dressed like a pimp in white furs and girls shaking their bums - only with Asian features.
- Quick quiz 1) Q: What is more annoying than 15 hours on a bus with Thai stand up comedy on TV? A: 9 hours on a Laos bus with a woman with a high pitched voice talking non-stop to the driver. (Extra credits if you can guess how long will it take before the driver gets distracted and drives off a cliff).
- Quick quiz 2) Q: What is even more annoying than the above? A: 7 hours on a Cambodian bus blasting local hits on the TV and the Cambodian passengers singing along passionately karaoke style.
- real estate business in Vietnam. Picture available as well. To let: Luxurious cottage&nb sp;on the lake with attached storage space for the fish. High quality sturdy styrofoam, pack-n-go constructi on, you don't like the neighbours, just sail somewhere else. Ideal for kids, they learn to swim fast or they die. Ample parking for the boat. NTL ready. (Yacht in photo extra).
Some very few photos finally added at http://photos.yahoo.com/kouleri" title="http://photos.yahoo.com/kouleri" target="_blank"http://photos.yahoo.com/koule... (Laos, Vietnam)
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| Hoi An - Saigon - Mekong Delta - Phnom Penh (4.12 - 13.12) |
| 12.13.04 (2:18 am) [edit] |
Today is Vassilis's birthday! (not disclosing how old he is :)). He spent it in Phnom Penh at the back of a tuk-tuk most of the time that we hired to take us to the most important sites in the city. We visited the S-21 former Khmer Rouge prison and the Killing Fields where the same regime used to murder the "low-class" prisoners of S-21, almost 2 million Cambodeans died during that period. Here we witnessed the human paranoia in all its glory. We did not feel like taking pictures. What of? The rest of the day was more uplifting, we visited the Royal Palace which was really spectacular and Wat Phnom (a temple on a hill). Phnom Penh is another of these weird South East Asian cities with some great looking tarmac boulevards and buildings and all the side streets being dirtroads hosting all the poor people trying to make a living. We have only been 1 and a half days here in Cambodia, but people here seem nice and friendly and they smile a lot. I like it so far. Tomorrow we are leaving for Siem Reap where we will visit Angkor Wat and I can't wait.
We reached Phnom Penh via a 2-day, 1-night bus and boat trip across the Mekong Delta, which was a really nice experience! We were crusing between villages with houses by the river, all the children playing in the water and waving at us like crazy, the more you waved the more they were jumping around, up and down. We even got "mooned" by a little one he he! It was a really great experience, so uplifting!
We boarded the bus to the Mekong Delta in Saigon (for the South Vietnamese) or Ho Chi Minh City/HCMC (for the North Vietnamese :)). We only stayed in Saigon for 2 days and did not get to see a lot. It is a huge huge city, with loads of highrises, huge posh hotels (I wonder who stays in them) and of course a lot of poor people and houses everywhere else. The traffic here is of course even crazier than Hanoi, but now we knew the trick, so we did not have major problems crossing the streets :). While in Saigon we also visited the Cu Chi tunnels, an intricate network of narrow tunnels at different depths where the Viet Cong used to hide during the American/Vietnam war and Americans could not find them. The tunnels'length is about 200km but of course only 30 meters of it are open to the public. They have even widened them for the tourists he he, and they are still tiny so imagine! Of course I did not get in, only Vassilis did :). We also visited the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, which although too propagandistic and one-sided, just makes you realize even more so, that there is never ever ever a reason for war. Never.
Along with Halong Bay, Hoi An, the place we were before Saigon is definetely one of the highlights of Vietnam. It is a picturesque, quiet little town where we stayed for 4 days. It is full of tailor shops or clothes shops as they call them, that are able to sew anything for you, absolutely anything. We had some clothes made at the place that our dear Czech friends recommended for very little money and they were really nice! We also rent bicycles and went to a nearby beach and although the weather was a bit cold, it was really great sitting by the sea, sipping nice Vietnamese coffee with condensed milk and watching the big South China Sea waves!
One of the nicest things in this/this kind of trip is that you meet travellers from different countries that usually follow similar itineraries. You exchange information, opinions, experiences, and some of them you meet again in another place a few days later! It is really fun and interesting!
While in Vietnam, we both had the impression that only women work in this country. This was confirmed by a Vietnamese tour guide and a N.Zealand lady who has been working for 3 years as a volunteer in Vietnam (incredible person). Yes, it is true! In general, mostly women work and bring money to the family, incredible! Plus the N.Zealand lady told us that in general they do not work as much as they seem to he he. Only as much as they have to (which is not all that bad :)). I find the general situation and politics in Vietnam a little bit crazy and nonsensical, and I am just afraid that trouble there is not over yet.
Next update from either Siem Reap of Bangkok. Keep in touch! :)
Pinelopi
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| How much I hate SE Asia |
| 12.04.04 (8:05 pm) [edit] |
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I have travelled on jam-packed buses for days on end, I have eaten things beyond any description, I have hallucinated to the smell of disgusting feet/bums/armpits, I have slept in beds crawling with creatures that my brain in an effort to keep me sane chose to forget, I have brushed my teeth with sewage water. Have I redeemed myself yet? Can I go home now? Please? It's not that I don't find this trip interesting, it's only that I don't like the things I see. The good points so far in Laos and Vietnam is the food/fruit and coffee/juices. But there wasn't really anything that you wouldn't like to miss in Laos. Luang Prabang was OK, but nothing spectacular. Phonsavan is a waste of space. We missed Vientiane though and I don't have the complete picture. Hanoi is an extremely noisy and filthy place, with people who live, eat, urinate, pick their toes constantly and sleep on the exact same spot on the street and there's nothing to see there either. Even if you go to the best and up-market looking restaurant and you get to see the kitchen, you realise that they cook your meal on the same rat infested floor (flattened soil basically) as out on the streets. And there's probably a child peeing next to your food. The food is great though probably just because of all these spices. In one "restaurant" I had the stupid idea to go to the toilet. The toilet was next to the kitchen, where a dog was leicking a pan that was lying on the ground amongst spilled remains of food (to be recycled as suppose). When tried to flush the toilet (just a bucket of course), I realised that the toilet bowl was leaking al over the floor and into the kitchen. Plus a woman opened the door (curtain) and emptied a bucket of dirty water on my feet. Ordering food is sometimes a big adventure as well. When you order mackerel for example, you end up with something completely alien and then you realise that are several possibilities: 1. The mackerel in Vietnam is different than the one you know 2. The mackerel is the same but they ran out and they brought you any fish they had 3. The translator made a mistake (and actually they meant snake). Additionally, they prepare one order after the other and they bring them to the table when they are ready. So you either wait for 15 minutes until your meal is cold in order to eat with your company, or everybody eats alone.
And that would still be OK if you weren't hassled every 3 nanoseconds by somebody going "ouououououou" or "buy-buy" or sticking a banana/bag/map/shoe/any-k ind-of-shit-you-could-pos sibly-imagine under your nose. Our friends told us that you just say "thanks no" and it's OK. BLOODY LIARS! It's not. People follow you even after 10 "thanks nos". On a boat cruise, I sat on a bench to relax and enjoy Halong Bay and a girl wanted to sell me pearls. First she showed me photos of real pearls and then she brought out the plastic marbles on a string and for ten (10) frigging minutes she was sitting next to me saying "buy, very cheap, buy, very cheap, buy, very cheap". I didn't mind at all sitting for almost two hours in Vinh with some schoolkids who wanted to see the guide and were asking for the English words fo this and that. But nobody really warns you enough about the harassment. But imagine carrying 20 kilos, both hands full, ready to board a boat through a dodgy plank and somebody jumps in front of insisting that you buy the bloody water. With what, the third arm? Or trying to take a picture and suddenly in the viefinder you see somebody's ugly face. They don't care if your busy, tired or even intimate with somebody. And that would still be OKish, if everybody wasn't trying to rip you off. We met some lovely people who offered us fruit and stuff but they were all Vietnamese living abroad, either France or the States. I think that 80% of the people you meet as a tourist are trying to rip you off. And the funny thing is that they prefer not to make a sale instead of getting a fair price. Once Penelope wanted to buy some corn. Two Vienamese girls had just bought some and we were waiting to see how much they would pay for it. The vendor told them apparently to wait and she quoted a ridiculous price. Same with the cigarettes that have a set price (I think). Some people try to sell them for more and when you explain that the vendor next door sells them for the standard price they prefer to loose the customer. You are far better off in the places where the locals go, better quality and better prices (OK, they stare at you but that's fine). Plus they'll con you with every chance they get. We got hustled twice already (and about the same exact thing, are we thick or what?). We bought train tickets to Hue at the hotel and for 3 days they were telling us they had booked them but they didn't have them. Apart from the fact that I was getting worried that we'll be stranded in Hanoi, we found out that of course they had the tickets all this time, but they only gave them to us when we were boarding the train so that we didn't have a chance to see they had overcharged us 20 dollars. I even gave the guy who brought us there a tip, yes, yes, laugh with the Greek retard. And this thing about saving face that we heard so much about is a joke. They told me that you'll get further by smiling than by getting upset. I had been smiling like an idiot for 3 days in Hanoi and nobody was smiling back. I found out though that when you raise your voice (and it happens a lot lately) they burst into a hysterical, hyena-like laughter. And that's saving face for you. Plus, they sleep everywhere, any time. In the internet cafe in Hanoi, the owner was sleeping behind his desk while we were online. On the floor I mean. And I wouldn't mind any of the above too much either if there was some culture and colour. But nothing is too old or very nice or historic or anything. In Laos and Vietnam the oldest sites are 200 years old. Even the US a have longer history that that (OK, they bombed everything and partly that's why nothing remains.) But it's mad to call a city that was built in 1883 "ancient". Come on, please. I'm really sorry if I'm offending anybody, but these people, although by no means stupid, need another 50 years to become human. At least. And everything I wrote is absolutely accurate and not just my opinion, you see it in other people's comments too. I even consider sending some of our experiences to Lonely Planet although I don't want to contribute for free. But I just feel people have to be warned and then they can decide whether to visit or not.
Hanoi and Hue were bad but Hoi An is quite pleasant. Stand by for some nice comments for a change.
P.S. Did I mention that the food is good?
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| Vietnamese English - English |
| 12.04.04 (12:10 am) [edit] |
chee = three
coconachee = coconut trees
big but = (depending on context) big butt or big bus
svov = twelve
ni = nice
vey ni = the end is nigh (?)
fi dolla = cost of room in Hue
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| Hanoi - Halong Bay - Hue (27.11 - 3.12) |
| 12.02.04 (11:30 pm) [edit] |
Hanoi is just a crazy city! Everybody beeps the horn for absolutely no reason most of the time (perhaps the Greek taxi drivers are Vietnamese :)), they drive like mad and everything they've ever told you about how difficult is to cross the streets is true! In the end I think we found the way, just keep a steady pace and they drive around you. It's absolute madness but also extremely interesting to see how the traffic just flows and no accidents happen. We spent 3 days here just wandering around, eating and drinking coffee in pure Vietnamese coffee shops in true Greek fashion :). Coffee here is the same as Laos and it is excellent, one of our favorites in SE Asia so far. I also visited the Hoa Lo prison, where Vietnamese kept American pilots as prisoners of war, some stayed there for 10years. They have 2 rooms with pictures and articles and other artifacts trying to convince how well they treated the Americans while imprisoned.
In most parts of Hanoi people practically live on the sidewalks, they eat there, have their businesses there, everything. Those with a proper "shop" also sleep in it at night. It was a truly amazing situation, like nothing we've seen before. People in Cuba are equally poor if not more but do not live like this. We were really amazed. The weather has been a bit bad as well, it has been raining all this time (apparently it is the raining season now in North Vietnam, they even had a major flood a few days before we arrived), which makes the whole sight even worse.
After Hanoi we went to Halong Bay for 2 days. This was truly an amazing place. Thousands of small rock-like islands spread accross a bay, it is really magnificent. We took loads of pictures there.
After coming back to Hanoi from Halong Bay we took an overnight train to Hue, the "ancient" capital of Vietnam. It is so funny that everything that's 200 years old here is "ancient". In Hue we're staying at the same place that our Czech friends did (guys it's great, the old couple that own the place are sooo funny!) for 5 dollars a night!! Today we did a tour to some major attractions around Hue with motorbike which was very nice. We visited some "ancient" emperor tombs and a Buddhist monks university, we saw them praying there as well, very interesting!
Tomorrow we'll take a bus to Hoi An, a small town in central west Vietnam, where we will stay for 3-4 days. Next update from there!
And to satisfy my crazy brother in law's curiosity, yes we do eat a lot of rice and noodleshere. I have to say that sometimes I do get fed up with the Asian food, but you can always find a place with western-like food, so you can take a break. We have not eaten dog yet and we do not intend to :). We have our clothes washed more or less once a week so far, and we try to bathe once a day :). This does not always work however especially when we are travelling, you do not want to be near is those days :). Vassilis has taken some pictures of my filthy feet after our bus trip from Laos to Vietnam, they will be published once we manage to find a place with USB. It seems that USB has not reached Laos or Vietnam yet. Vassilis's backpack is a big mystery. He is supposed to have less stuff than I do and yet it is extremely heavy. I have to have a look one day and see what on earth he has in there!! Also, it is a total mess and I can't understand how he finds his things in it! :D
In general, everything we've seen so far is truly amazing, beyond description. There is so much poverty, you cannot imagine. And I am sure Vietnam or Laos are not the poorest countries on earth. People live in unimaginable conditions and I keep wondering if they realize this fact. As a tourist you do have to be careful of the few nast people that try to rip you off in any way they can, give you fake money (thankfully we have not been victims of that yet :)) etc. Which is bad as it creates a bad image for the country. In general however I think that normal, non-tourist-related people here are nice and generous. The whole experience so far has been great and definetely a major culture shock! :)
Thank you for all the comments so far it is great fun reading them!
Pinelopi
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